Thursday, 16 October 2008

TV Guide Sold for a Buck (Advertising Age)



TV Guide Sold for a Buck
SEC Filing: Buyer Got $9.5 Million Loan From Macrovision to Do Deal
By
Nat Ives Published: October 15, 2008 NEW YORK (AdAge.com)
How much is TV Guide magazine worth in a morphing media business and molten credit markets? Try $1.
That's how much the private equity fund OpenGate Capital has agreed to pay Macrovision for the unprofitable magazine and all its liabilities. The cover price, by way of comparison, is $2.99.
Take this magazine -- please.
To sweeten the deal even further, Macrovision is loaning OpenGate up to $9.5 million to help get going -- at a very friendly 3% interest. "I'd borrow from Macrovision any time," one investment banker said of the terms. The terms were not disclosed when Macrovision said Monday it had struck a deal with OpenGate, but emerged in a Macrovision filing to the Securities and Exchange Commission yesterday.
For Macrovision, the deal clears from its books a money-losing print magazine and its 3 million subscribers who need to be serviced.
Money pit
It acquired the title when it bought Gemstar-TV Guide for its digital assets last January. But the magazine lost about $20.3 million in 2007, according to Gemstar's 10-K filing for the year ended December 2007. Gemstar said in that 10-K: "We currently anticipate continuing, but declining, losses for the next two to three years." OpenGate believes it can turn the title's liabilities into profits. "The reason we acquired this business is simple," OpenGate managing partner Andrew Nikou told AdAge.com yesterday. "It needed additional investment. We're investing in this company to take it to the next stage." Macrovision is selling cable's TV Guide Channel separately.





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Ad agencies try to capitalize on financial crisis through 'borrowed interest' (IHT)

Recent ads from Burger King have focused on value for customers in difficult times.

(Dimas Ardian/Bloomberg News)

By Stuart Elliott
Wednesday, October 15, 2008
NEW YORK: For more than a year, banks, insurance companies and brokerage firms have been running campaigns that address the tumultuous economic conditions. Now, they have company.
Purveyors of products that are unrelated to finance are getting into the act, placing advertisements that seek to take advantage of the attention the public is paying to Wall Street and the credit crisis.
"Life hurts. Laughs help" is the theme of an online campaign for HBO Video, part of the HBO unit of Time Warner, which sells DVDs of comedy series like "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and "Flight of the Conchords."
The campaign cites several situations that require a sense of humor. One, for example, is: "You just opened up a mutual fund. That falls more often than your toddler." The campaign is by Venables Bell & Partners in San Francisco.
Brooks Brothers is running ads in newspapers that reprint a 1942 pitch about the retailer's suits. "It pays to buy at Brooks Brothers," the vintage ad said, because the most economical clothes "are those that are made to last."
"Just as our ad stated in the 1940s," the current ad declares, "during these uncertain times, Brooks Brothers is still the investment you can trust."
Marketers outside the financial services industry have been running campaigns for several months that are inspired by the faltering economy. Those ads present products as smart buys because they offer value for money, but do not refer directly to why shoppers may be pinching pennies.
The new ads, by contrast, invoke news headlines in a tactic that is known in marketing as borrowed interest, which hopes to gain attention by riding the coattails of important and topical events.
For instance, television commercials from Walt Disney Co., selling tickets for the Broadway musical "Mary Poppins," feature members of the audience who make remarks like, "You think of everything going on in the world, and it just becomes magic," and "So well worth the money, and the uplifting of the spirit in these difficult times."
Ads that play off the financial news can be risky, because the losses involved - of retirement nest eggs, money, jobs - are no laughing matter.
"It's a fine balance," said Dean Crutchfield, a branding consultant in New York.
On one hand, "people are having difficulty," Crutchfield said, but on the other, "it's too big an opportunity to miss."
The best approach is to "find out if it works with your target audience" before producing the campaign, "otherwise, it can blow up in your face."
One marketer, Volkswagen of America, has decided that referring to the economy in new ads inspired by current conditions - which will reintroduce a lease promotion called Sign Then Drive - would not fit with its brand image.
"It would be inconsistent with the tonality" of Volkswagen ads, said Tim Ellis, vice president for marketing in Herndon, Virginia, which "take a 'Singin' in the Rain' standpoint regardless of the economic climate - always optimistic and positive."
Volkswagen had planned to bring back the promotion in November, said Mark Barnes, chief operating officer, "but when we saw the, shall we say, exodus of leasing from the market, we saw an opportunity to bring it forward" to last Friday.
Another marketer shying from mentioning the economy in economy-themed ads is Burger King, which has commercials with its King character playing Robin Hood: He puts money back into the pockets of customers who buy items from the BK Value Menu.
The intent is to play down the problem and play up that "we have a solution," said Rob Reilly, partner and co-executive creative director at the Burger King agency, Crispin Porter & Bogusky, in Boulder, Colorado, and Miami, part of MDC Partners.
"The problem is out there every day," Reilly said. "Do you really need to make a point of it?"
Some agencies are not as reluctant.
Wikreate, an agency in San Francisco, even gave a recent "Celebrate the Crisis" party. Attendees were asked to shred the financial sections of newspapers and toss the scraps over their shoulders while shouting, "Crisis, schmisis!"
"The crisis is part perception, part reality," said Ezequiel Trivino, founder and president at Wikreate (pronounced "we create"). "If we are optimists, if we feel we can get out of the crisis, it will be less prevalent."
Besides, he added, laughing, the party was organized to "celebrate in the least-expensive way we can."


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Pearson shares rise (IHT)

It's important to remember that Pearson's flagship FT, and one of the IHT's main competitors, along with the WSJ, represents a very small part of Pearson's total revenue. On that note:

Sales were up 11 percent at the FT Group and advertising revenues at FT Publishing were 1 percent ahead of 2007.
That all said, it has outperformed European media stocks by 9% over the last 15 months, and rose it tough market conditions no less than 4.3 percent to 583.5 pence yesterday. But remember the head days of £15 plus prices?


Reuters
Wednesday, October 15, 2008
By Dan Lalor and Kate Holton
Publishing group Pearson said its adjusted 2008 earnings per share should be towards the top end of current market estimates if the dollar maintains gains versus sterling.
The owner of The Financial Times also said on Wednesday it was trading in line with expectations, with sales up 8 percent and operating profit up 11 percent at constant exchange rates in the nine months to end-September.
Sales were up 3 percent on an underlying basis.
The news sent shares in the Penguin books owner up 4.3 percent to 583.5 pence in early trading against an otherwise lower market, as analysts welcomed the "reassuring" statement.
"We're naturally cautious about the global economic conditions, but we have good trading momentum, innovative products, resilient businesses and a strong balance sheet," Pearson chief executive Marjorie Scardino said in a statement.
"We are trading in line with our expectations and we remain on track to make further progress on our financial goals in 2008," the group said.
Analysts' median forecast is for an adjusted 2008 EPS of 49.25 pence from Pearson, based on a range from 45.65 to 52.8 pence, according to Reuters Estimates.
Pearson said its education business was trading in line with expectations, with sales up 10 percent and margin guidance unchanged.
It expects 2008 margins to be similar to the 2007 levels, even after "significant expensed integrations costs" and it expects margin improvements in 2009 and beyond.
Sales were up 11 percent in the North American education division and it expects full-year sales to grow by around 10 percent, or by 2 to 4 percent on an underlying basis.
Sales were up 11 percent at the FT Group and advertising revenues at FT Publishing were 1 percent ahead of 2007. Sales were up 3 percent at Penguin and it expects a good performance in the important fourth-quarter Christmas selling period.
Analysts mostly welcomed the statement as reassuring but RBS Media did note that the education division and Penguin had slowed in the third quarter compared to the first half.
"While the 9 month organic growth of 3 percent is respectable, and the company reiterated guidance for low single digit revenue growth for the full-year, we note that Education slowed meaningfully in Q3 (H1 growth of 4 percent vs 9 month growth of 1 percent), as did Penguin (H1 organic growth of 9 percent vs 9 month growth of 4 percent).
"Pearson's business is late cycle, we expect Pearson's organic growth to slow to 1 percent in 2009 as state funding for education slows," they said.
Pearson shares, which have outperformed other leading European media stocks by 9 percent over the past 12 months, closed at 559.5 pence on Tuesday to value the business at 4.37 billion pounds.
(Reporting by Dan Lalor and Kate Holton; Editing by Hans Peters)

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New York Times Company stock - buy, sell, hold?


If your portfolio has a healthy cash balance (and as an IHT reader who has been on the ball and following A Place in the Auvergne since the beginning of 2008, it should have) then these are interesting times for stock transactions.

I'm not going to get into recommendations on NYT Company Stock (for now at least) but I will post on it a little more regularly. Starting with just reminding readers of this blog of the daily price. Remember, it wasn't so long ago that this stock traded at US$45.




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Wednesday, 15 October 2008

About.com





Please find below press release from the NYTCompany about not very interesting new stuff at About.com.

I'm not a heavy About.com user, it is has to be said. I've looked at it this year, out of interest, but I've never actually gone to it to find out About something. I wonder why this is? Must reflect more but I think they're are things that prevent me, conciously or subconciously.

a) they're not leveraging the NYT brand and no credibility equity has been transferred from my devotion to all things NYT to anything about.com;

b) the logo looks like its made by a graphic designer who doesn't know much about graphic design and to my particular eye says 'amateur', 'cheap' low quality citizen journalism;

c) the fact they only have 750 experts who are constantly referred to as 'REAL PEOPLE' unlike say, real academics, real researchers, real journalists or even real experts. (cf Wikipedia) Of those 750 experts only 20 of them have been named Forbes “Best of Web,” in 8 years. By industry standards this may be good but as a consumer it doesn't seem to be enough, for me at least. Of their 57 million users, only 8 million have thought the stuff good enough to subscribe. I know you can argue this is a very good conversion rate, as a business, but as a consumer it doesn't instill me with confidence.

d) any strapline that uses such a strong negative (Guidance. Not Guesswork.) usually leaves a take out that the lady doth protest too much and it isn't offering that much guidance - which is a weak abstract noun for a brand statement - and could well involve a fair amount of guess work;

e) an Internet business like this surely needs to be global and although I haven't done a thorough analysis of their topics or experts, my sense is that both are predominantly American focussed (e.g for example, and not a particularly good one, but you get the drift, there is no topic for Brazil or Australia but there is about Brazil and Australia Travel) and it's all in English. (Save About China)

f) the crappy advertising that pops up.


That all said it is one of the webs top 15 content sites, reaching 38 million unique visitors each month in U.S.* and 57 million globally.** (About.com metrics, bien sur).

Of those 19 million 'foreigners' who use it may I refer them to User Promise No. 5 of the About.com's 6 user promises, which is "We'll speak your language".


If you'd like to read more about About.com scroll down past the latest gripping installment from it's development and have a look at Channels and Topics, plus some other stuff.



About.com Health Expands Its Online Community with Calorie Count Groups
NEW YORK, Oct 14, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) --
About.com Health (www.about.com/health), which is among the top three consumer health Web sites in the U.S. (September 2008 Nielsen Online), announced today the launch of Calorie Count Groups, a free online social dieting network that allows members to connect and communicate about topics of interest, and motivate each other to achieve health and weight goals. Calorie Count Groups is the latest addition to About.com Health's Calorie Count Web site, which provides guidance and support to dieters, information on foods, exercise programs and dieting tools. Calorie Count passed the one million member mark in August.
"More and more people are embracing social dieting as an effective method of weight loss and maintenance," said Igor Lebovic, director,
Calorie Count. "Calorie Count Groups allows members to benefit from the knowledge and experience of others and provides an environment through which they can share tips and lend support."
Using
Calorie Count Groups, members can also create their own public or private groups and connect with people who share similar interests, live in nearby neighborhoods or have common goals. Thus far, approximately 26,000 Calorie Count members have joinedmore than 300 Groups in categories such as Motivation and Challenges, Foods and Cooking, and Losing or Gaining Weight, among others.
Since 2005,
Calorie Count members have collectively lost over 1.3 million pounds - the equivalent of 85 adult elephants, nine Boeing 737 aircrafts and almost three Statues of Liberty.
About About.com
Founded in 1996, About.com is one of the Web's leading producers of original content. The site's expert Guides provide users with accurate and unbiased information to help them live happier, healthier and more successful lives.
In March 2005, About.com was acquired by The New York Times Company (NYSE: NYT), a leading media company with 2007 revenues of $3.2 billion, which includes The New York Times, the International Herald Tribune, The Boston Globe, 16 other daily newspapers, WQXR-FM and more than 50 Web sites, including NYTimes.com, Boston.com and About.com. The Company's core purpose is to enhance society by creating, collecting and distributing high-quality news, information and entertainment.
This press release can be downloaded from www.nytco.com
SOURCE: The New York Times Company
About.com Erica McDonald, 212-204-1724
emcdonald@about.com






READY FOR THE INTERNET LIKE NEVER BEFORE
About.com is an online neighborhood of hundreds of helpful experts, eager to share their wealth of knowledge with visitors.

Every month, over 60 million people* visit us for help with everything from health care and parenting issues to advice on travel, cooking, technology, hobbies and more. And we offer solutions in the form of over two million hand-crafted, original articles, recipes, product reviews, videos, tutorials and more.

All created by our network of expert 'Guides' - real people who, like all good neighbors, help others so that everyone's life gets just a little better.

Founded in 1996, About.com was acquired in March 2005 by The New York Times Company (NYSE: NYT). Today, About.com is recognized as a top 15 content site and one of the largest producers of original content on the Web.

ABOUT.COM LEADS THE WAY




  • About.com is America's single largest developer of original content on the Web. Offering almost 2 million pieces of original content spanning 21 diverse channels.


  • Only About.com features expert Guides. With a network of 750 Guides, About.com provides practical solutions to everyday problems across thousands of topics. Consistently providing rich and relevant content and guiding key decision, Guides turn About.com into a trusted community.


  • About.com is a top 15 content site. Reaching 38 million unique visitors each month in U.S.* and 57 million globally.**


  • About.com is the answer or end result for many Internet searches as well as a "direct destination" for loyal users.
    About.com continually maintains its relevance to users.


  • About.com covers 70,000 topics, and adds more than 6,000 pieces of new content each week.


  • About.com offers a valuable contextual environment. Offering unique Guide-based content and a robust online experience, About.com provides a leading means for advertisers to surround their message with relevant content and is a powerful driver of an enhanced brand experience.



ABOUT.COM FINANCIALS


Source: http://www.nytco.com/pdf/annual_2007/mda.pdf





"The About Group principally generates revenues from display advertising, that is relevant to its adjacent content, cost-per-click advertising (sponsored links for which the About Group is paid when a user clicks on an ad), and e-commerce (including sales lead generation). Almost all of its revenues (95% in 2007) are derived from the sale of advertisements (display and cost-per-click advertising). Display advertising accounted for 51% of the About Group's total advertising revenues."

About.com accounted for just 3% (US$102.7 million) of the NYT Company's 2007 total revenues of US$3.195 billion. (By comparison the NYTMG - accounted for 64% - basically the NYT - and the NEMG - basically the Boston Globe - accounted for 19%; the Regionals delivered 14%.) That was a 28% increase over 2006 and 82% over 2005. So it's revenue base isn't far off the IHT in a good year, or more to the point and more exactly, the revenue base of the IHT isn't that far off About.com when the IHT has a good year.

The difference however is that the NYT paid cUS$50-70million dollars for 50% of the IHT but paid US$410 million for 100% of About.com in March 2005. At that time About.com had 57,000 topics and a library of 1.2 million pieces of content and had, according to Nielsen//NetRatings 29 million unique users nationally and 47 million worldwide in October 2005. Today those figures have increased (in 3 years) to 38 and 57 million respectively.

I'll leave you to judge:



a) whether you think those growth figures are good, bad or indifferent given the explosive growth rates we've seen in other Internet businesses, especially social-networking sites;



b) where the IHT could be today if that US$410 million had been poured into the IHT, iht.com, reporters, thickening the book and redesigning it and marketing it from March 2005.



Now let's take a look at the profitability of About.com

In 2007 it's costs were US$68 million, a profit of, give or take, US$ 34 million. That's not bad going on a revenue base of US$102 million and on that front, the IHT can't even touch it. In fact, I don't think the IHT has been profitable since it was fully acquired by the NYTCompany


However, the About.com cost trend isn't terrific. Up 37% over 2006, up 53% over 2005 and some would argue that the revenue growth, impressive as it may look (28% increase over 2006) was in fact off a low base and these big number revenue growth rates need to be continued for years to start getting near the print properties. And that is not a given.


There are of course a whole number of variables at play in these cost growths (compensation, content and amortization cost increases primarily due, we are told, to new initiatives and acquisition costs in 2007). What those acquisitions brought with them in increased revenue the NYT Company is less than clear on. They do say that the 2007 revenue increase was primarily due to increased ad revenue (from About.com or the new acquisitions the language does not make clear, saying that 'in addition, revenues increased due to the About.com acquisitions'.)




Alors, I could bang on about about but for now I have had about enough.

Feel free to explore many of the interesting subjects in the experts hands of REAL people.



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NYT Layoff Rumours - Caveat Emptor: From Gawker


5:22 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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It should not be such a surprise that the New York Times is planning unprecedentedly brutal cuts to its editorial staff for 2009. After all, the newspaper has the most heavily-staffed newsroom in the country, with some 1,200 employees. Advertising revenues have declined at double-digit rates. And—after the recent economic swoon—the business won't be rebounding any time soon. But here's the funny thing about the rumor we're hearing:
The end-year cuts will fall most heavily on the newspaper's softer sections and the Times Magazine—in other words, those parts of the newspaper that are in most demand by advertisers. Publisher Arthur 'Pinch' Sulzberger apparently remains committed to saving the newspaper's pride, its costly and unprofitable hard news. In the words of Marshal Canrobert as he watched the British Light Brigade charge to destruction: "C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre." A rough translation into demotic American: Pinch, you crazy guy.




COMMENTS ON THIS GAWKER PIECE


IW: I have no trust in Gawker, nor do I discount it. Actually, what I find interesting are
a) How many people have read this story (6,552)
b) How many people have commented
c) What they say and what mood music this creates around the NYT. (More anti-NYT/print agitprop but also many coming to the defence of the NYT.







mrsarahpalinsbaby 5:31 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
Your ass is grass Jennifer 8. Check yo fortune for real yo.

mrsarahpalinsbaby Your ass is grass Jennifer 8. Check yo fortune for real...
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overunderover 7:25 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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mrsarahpalinsbaby: On a related note, Jennifer's 1 - 7 were spared.

overunderover @ mrsarahpalinsbaby : On a related note, Jennifer's 1 -...

cosmiclove 8:28 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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mrsarahpalinsbaby: I just found your fortune cookie. It reads: "Soon you will speak like Sarah Palin for all the future.''

cosmiclove @ mrsarahpalinsbaby : I just found your fortune cookie....

mrsarahpalinsbaby 8:51 AM on Tue Oct 14 2008
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cosmiclove: you betcha!

mrsarahpalinsbaby @ cosmiclove : you betcha!


5:34 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008 1 reply
Larry Bird Flu 5:34 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
How will I know whether or not to kick a hobo without The Ethicist?

Larry Bird Flu How will I know whether or not to kick a hobo without...
1 reply by Smitros

Smitros 11:56 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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Larry Bird Flu: You can always bypass the hobo and kick The Ethicist himself. I know I've wanted to.

Smitros @ Larry Bird Flu : You can always bypass the hobo and...


5:37 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
belltolls 5:37 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
I am scrapping my 4,000 word think piece on "The Return of Wicker" right now.

belltolls I am scrapping my 4,000 word think piece on "The Return...


5:39 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008 3 replies
the supergoddess 5:39 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
I'm not sure I understand the snotty and derisive tone here, Mister Denton. I mean, it's fine that you place the bottom line before all else but why should we flog the Times for having a different set of values from that of Gawker Media?

the supergoddess I'm not sure I understand the snotty and derisive tone...
3 replies by JC Hewitt, Ogiri W Surie, Balsa Wood

JC Hewitt 5:55 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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the supergoddess: I think you are getting to the core of the issue a bit, in that the Times has routinely pursued a different set of values than that of the market.
That's not exactly kind to their employees, who are now suffering because of repeated poor business decisions. These are the consequences of irresponsible management - and I wouldn't be surprised if the Times continues to struggle, seeing as they apparently aren't learning their lessons.
You'd expect this sort of bungling from a company run on nepotism, naturally...

JC Hewitt @ the supergoddess : I think you are getting to the core...

Ogiri W Surie 7:48 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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the supergoddess: Hear, hear. Yes the Times has a serious issue with it's business model but that no reason to vilify them for trying to adhere to actual journalism. Should they become a tabloid like the Daily Post because that's what's more titillating? No need to answer. I think I know what that answer would be.

Ogiri W Surie @ the supergoddess : Hear, hear. Yes the Times has a...

Balsa Wood 4:08 AM on Tue Oct 14 2008
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Ogiri W Surie: Second that. I can't begin to understand Gawker's adolescent hate on for the Times. "Your management falters, so burn in hell for eternity!"
Seriously: what the hell would we do without the hard journalism sections of the New York Times? What the hell would Gawker do?

Balsa Wood @ Ogiri W Surie : Second that. I can't begin to...


5:51 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
creggb 5:51 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
Well said. Cutbacks in the Magazine and Style sections will definitely force gawker to be even more innovative. Just like cutbacks in -- what was it? -- 15-20 per cent of this media group's staff a week ago?

creggb Well said. Cutbacks in the Magazine and Style sections...


6:15 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
naugahydeinplainsight 6:15 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
While surprising, it makes sense to me that The Times -- forced to choose -- would focus on the hard-news "product" rather than the much-derided (on Gawker and elsewhere) soft stuff (Styles, anyone?). News, analysis and investigations are what it does best and what you can't find everywhere else. Whatever economic model they use to deliver the paper, there still has to be something worth selling.

naugahydeinplainsight While surprising, it makes sense to me that The Times --...


6:33 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008 2 replies
alorsenfants 6:33 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
So now, all those proposterous supplement magazines... am thinking in particular of the one called "T"... will no longer exist? And there will be no teaser lines on the main website page leading to you them with that catchy phrase: "It's All About..."
Goodness, how in heavens will I now know what it's All About!

alorsenfants So now, all those proposterous supplement magazines......
2 replies by LongIslandSettee, fileunder

LongIslandSettee 6:42 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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alorsenfants: Wait, T is a magazine? I thought it was an advertising supplement. I'm serious - really?

LongIslandSettee @ alorsenfants : Wait, T is a magazine? I thought it was...

fileunder 9:12 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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LongIslandSettee: No, that's Key.

fileunder @ LongIslandSettee : No, that's Key .


6:34 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
alorsenfants 6:34 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
It's all about being "preposterous", actually --

alorsenfants It's all about being "preposterous", actually --


6:46 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008 2 replies
rajmahall 6:46 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
Pleeeeeease fire Bill Kristol.

rajmahall Pleeeeeease fire Bill Kristol.
2 replies by KingOfSnake, Ogiri W Surie

KingOfSnake 6:53 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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rajmahall: Yeah, because with all the conservative columnists they already have, Kristol is redundant.

KingOfSnake @ rajmahall : Yeah, because with all the conservative...

Ogiri W Surie 8:54 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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rajmahall: Yeah, really. His duck lips annoy the shit out of me.

Ogiri W Surie @ rajmahall : Yeah, really. His duck lips annoy the shit...


7:02 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008 5 replies
The Cooler 7:02 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
I find it interesting that after three weeks of almost non-stop economic meltdown coverage (there's even a mini-site! How cute.) that you completely ignored the stock market bounce today. (Yet, still found room for gloating like this.) Only doom and gloom gets the ink?

The Cooler I find it interesting that after three weeks of almost...
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JC Hewitt 7:13 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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The Cooler: Shit, the bounce is way more depressing than a proper drop. You think it's going to stick around...?

JC Hewitt @ The Cooler : Shit, the bounce is way more depressing...

The Cooler 7:24 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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JC Hewitt: Irrelevant. It's part of the story, isn't it?

The Cooler @ JC Hewitt : Irrelevant. It's part of the story, isn't...

JC Hewitt 7:35 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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The Cooler: Sure.
I'm curious as to why it wasn't covered as well, but for me, today's run-up looked wayyyy too similar to a Zimbabwe Industrial Index chart to be considered happy sunshine news.

JC Hewitt @ The Cooler : Sure. I'm curious as to why it wasn't...

Ryan Tate 10:11 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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The Cooler: Um:[gawker.com]

Ryan Tate @ The Cooler : Um: [gawker.com]

Ryan Tate 11:17 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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Ryan Tate: Oh never mind, that's what I get for not checking the markets after I wake up. 5 percent is nothing!

Ryan Tate @ Ryan Tate : Oh never mind, that's what I get for not...


8:10 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
PandoraSpocks 8:10 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
Get rid of Frank Rich, MoDo and a few of the other entitled real journalist types and there might be more money for the hard news.

PandoraSpocks Get rid of Frank Rich, MoDo and a few of the other...


8:23 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008 2 replies
cosmiclove 8:23 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
I, for one, hope Gawker doesn't cut its softer sections. They're the best part of the site. Are tumors soft? They should go, then.

cosmiclove I, for one, hope Gawker doesn't cut its softer sections....
2 replies by rudolphdude, cosmiclove

rudolphdude 9:11 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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cosmiclove: Oh Tumors are most def hard news.

rudolphdude @ cosmiclove : Oh Tumors are most def hard news.

cosmiclove 10:13 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
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rudolphdude: Booya!

cosmiclove @ rudolphdude : Booya!


9:31 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
cassandra 9:31 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
Maybe they're realizing that their soft sections are not very good. Plus, advertisers for soft sections are usually focused on selling high-end consumer goods, which makes them the most vulnerable to an advertising pullback. So, no real loss.
Besides, maybe they'll make their writers submit actual stories as often as once every two weeks!

cassandra Maybe they're realizing that their soft sections are not...


10:21 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
cosmiclove 10:21 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
Now, where will I read that a healthy diet and exercise help lower your blood pressure? Huffpo, I guess. NOT.

cosmiclove Now, where will I read that a healthy diet and exercise...


10:26 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
cosmiclove 10:26 PM on Mon Oct 13 2008
Is business considered a soft section since it missed the biggest news story of a lifetime?

cosmiclove Is business considered a soft section since it missed...


1:29 AM on Tue Oct 14 2008
Hey_mikey 1:29 AM on Tue Oct 14 2008
Also, what with all the media "coverage" - not to get myself banned from the site or anything -- but not a mention of the fact that, hold on to your hats, the Brits managed to go from seeing the problem to paying out pounds in five days. We're still talking after weeks. Are our guys just dumb, or sadistic?

Hey_mikey Also, what with all the media "coverage" - not to get...


4:19 AM on Tue Oct 14 2008
Swordfish 4:19 AM on Tue Oct 14 2008
As long as they cut the barrage of those insipid T magazines... Bring back the twice-yearly Fashions of the Times! Twice a year, yes. Fourteen times a year, NO!

Swordfish As long as they cut the barrage of those insipid T...


10:45 AM on Tue Oct 14 2008 1 reply
HK_Guy 10:45 AM on Tue Oct 14 2008
Makes perfect sense. Anyone with a computer - hell, with a pencil and an eraser - no, make that a crayon - can write the shit in the Styles sections (case in point: those horrid shopping articles by Mike Albo and Alex Kuczynski or whatever-the-fuck her name is).
Try having one of the myriad "style journalist" (now THERE'S an oxymoron for our times) freelancer step into Adam Nagourney or Floyd Norris' beats.
Face it: the writers for this crap are a dime a dozen. Try advertising for reporters and see how many resumes you can get from "arts writers" and reviewers - and how many for hard-news reporters.

HK_Guy Makes perfect sense. Anyone with a computer - hell, with...
1 reply by tammyfey

tammyfey 1:08 PM on Tue Oct 14 2008
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HK_Guy: Well, I agree that there are some shitty writers writing shitty shit in various fluffish sections (*cough*melissaclark*cough*), but having Mike Albo and Cintra Wilson write the shopping columns was a brilliant idea, because they rock. The Kooze, with whom I never had much of a problem--setting aside her dabbling in plagiarism--hasn't written much lately, as far as I can tell.
I do firmly believe that good writing is good writing, no matter the subject, so it's bullshit to arbitrarily deem traditional, "hard" newsreporting as legitimate and dismiss arts, style, food, travel, etc. articles as fluff.

tammyfey @ HK_Guy : Well, I agree that there are some shitty...



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